Gold Lady's Page

Thanks fo accepting my friendship.I love AZ wanted to move there but compromized on FL.Fanatic about the west and looking forward to getting to know you better.Take care,Bill

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Interesting photo's where do they hail from.

I was born and spent some of my childhood in Arizona, the biggest part of my family lives in Texas, and now live in Southern California. I was invited to this web site, but I see no one from my side o the Old West. Yes, I belong to the group that makes up my logo.

Johnny

I am as Southwest as one can get. Both of my Grandparents from my fathers side are Texas Lipan Apache's and my Mother was from Colorado, thoug h she was born in France, and I was born in a town that no longer is on the map, it was swallowed up by a copper mining company along with another small company town. I now live in Southern California with my wife and daughter and her three children. Three generation under one roof. I have family in the South-east corner of Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, and Old Mexico. Then of course, here in Sothern California.

Gayle invited me to the site as a friend, because I had invited her as a friend at another site.

I thought that your pictures were of Arizona, but I didn't want to make the mistake of declaring them as so.

Phoenix is a big city Gold Lady, a far cry from when I was a small boy visiting family way back, almost at the time the Southwest was just tamed.

Johnny

Gold Lady:

Yeah, it has been some time since I've been in Phoenix, the 50's as a child, every year. Life chnged for me in the 1960's, I got married to a Penn. Dutch girl of sixteen when I turned 21, we had two children. But, then in 1970 we both became Christian, her at the church, and me in my own way. In 1972 I took my wife on a tour to show my wife Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma. We took the Southern route to visit her Dad in PA., stopped in Washington DC and went to Thomas Jeffersons place and the return home taking the Northern route, Il., Iowa, Nebraska, Wyoming, CO., Utah, and NV. Now I fly commerical! I know Wickenberg, and yes it is cooler there.

It is not where you were born, it is where your heart is. as in the book title; "I Burnied my heart at Wounded Knee."

Phoenix is a big difference from back east that is for sure, but I can remember when Phoenix was even more dry that it is today. All the green in and around Phoenix has brought the moister up from what once was.

My wife is also Pennsylvania Dutch, from Lebanon - Hersey. Both side of her family are German.

You believe you must some Native American blood in you....let me see, in that area it was made up of Susqehanna people and Seneca, Cayuga, Wenro and Munsee peoples.

Candy and I used to do what your husband and you did, just take a drive and see where the back road would lead us, and we camp out also. Plus we would biking on ten speeds, do backpacks, day hikes, canoeing, horse back up mountains. Candy after a while gave up the Backpack and day hike for Lent. I also used to like rock climbing, mountian climbing, and collect Rock. "Lapidary" then polish them. We did stained glass, bead work, leather work.

I still have many of my 'True West' magz. from the 1970's along with Great West, Old West, Frontier West, Wild West, The West, Real West, Golden West, Pioneer West, Western Frontier, Real Frontier, True Frontier, Frontier Times amnd Zane Grey Maz. I go through them about once a year, to refresh me, because I don't see them in the stores any more.

Yes! I write, and I've tried to have a manuscript published, thought they said it was good, they told me it was not the kind that would sell.

So, now I just write, to keep the thing my Grandparent told me about the Apache life. These are not things that can be back up, but they were important to them, so they became important to me. Example, as a boy he saw Goy'a'a1e' and his band as a small boy, because his father rode with them when they were hidding from both the Mexicans and US Calvary, while coming going out of Mexico. He also saw the Apache Kid as a boy, when it was believed the Kid was dead. My fathers people had no written language, on way to verify what they did, say or saw. We are pictural people with no written language. Also, the Apache stories, customs of my grandparents and how it changed from the old ways. Like todays Pow-Wow's, they are generic now as to what they once were.

So, yes, I write, but for myself and hopefully, my grandchildren will one day become interested of their heritage and want to read what I've put down on paper that was given to me around the fires at night by my grandfather.

Yeah, my wife does too, but it is the narrowness of the peoples mindset that she had a problem with and that is why she left. She knows all the places you mentioned. She also said that on certain times of the day, the whole town of Lebanon could sell the Hershey factory.

I am glad, she could stand the small mindedness of the people in Lebanon, PA. because I wouldn't have met her when she left her father in Lebanon, PA. to live with her Mother and step-father. That was way back in 1960-1 and were still together, after everyone said it wouldn't last.

You do know that they have a method where you can find out through 'DNA', if you really want to know for sure how much Native American blood runs through you vains, and to some degree which people, that is if they were not wiped out or became a vanished people. Meaning that they so mingled with other races, that they no longer survied as a group.

I have to say, I haven't read much on here, let alone blog's, accept for yours and Sixgun e-notes. I've only been a part of True West since I was invited some time on Wed. or Thursday. So, I am not familiar with BBB, other that what you've told me.

Yes, I know about Mickey Free, but from my Grandfather, and he didn't have a high reguard for him at times, but other times he spoke differently. But that is the way of the Apaches. It is the action, they speak to, not the man. Unless the man was fully evil or a indaa, (White man), which was Spanish or European American.

Let me get to know you and Six Guns first, and maybe read a few blogs of BBB, before I contact him. Unless, he contacts me, I need to know him through his writings, before I feel that I can contact him. But, thank you for the support Gold Lady!

Johnny

Gold Lady:

I thought more of what you said, and slept on it. I thought that I would start adding blogs to my page that would have some things dealing with the stories tols us when we were children.

This will be my first, so any help to start it would be greatly sought by you and anyone else to make it apealing to read.

Thanks for putting the spark back into wanting to write about my ancesteral history. Because I won't be able to verify some of what I write, is there some kind of disclaimer?

Johnny

Gold Lady,

I am indepted to you and your friendship, as well as your help to feel a little more like a part of the True West website. I appreciate you help as I start a new chapter in my life.

I will take your advise and share a bit about myself first then go into my Grandfathers story, with some sprinkes of my peoples history.

This blog page you mention, is it under main blog's, or BBB blog's or somewhere else.

Do I need to run it past anyone for it to be entered?
What is I have picture's....how do I put them into the blog. IS it the same as when I enter them into my site?

Understand, this is not my land, and when I am not in my land I need a guide to show me the pathway, so I don't get lost or fall into a hole that I can't get out.

Gold lady, I'll start it on the first of the month, as I have to go digging in the garage for my notes, though I hav the story in my head. The notes are the refinement that I had from working on the manuscript for the book. But, shpuld I not find them, I still have my memories to recall them, and I'll go from there.

Again, I do appreciate you kindness in helping this old Indian.

Johnny

Gold Lady,

You have been more than helpful, you've been a God send. Thank you ever so much for your time and helpful information.

God Bless and have a good day.

Johnny

I am still having the darnest time with this site. I have picture that I've installed, but I can't seem to remove the ones that are in my photo. I can install, but sure can't remove them.

Is there a trick that I don't know of.