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James L. Courtney alias Jesse James

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Comment by Melvin Graf on January 11, 2011 at 10:29am

This isn't James L. Courtney.  The image is of Travis Barron.  The person who claims it is James L. Courtney is a delusional woman in Texas who believes she is the great-granddaughter of Jesse James.  She claims that the famous outlaw Jesse Woodson James did not die in 1882 as history records but faked his death and moved to Texas and lived under the name of James L. Courtney.  There are valid images of James L. Courtney but this one is completely misidentifed.

http://www.ericjames.org/JesseJamesinTexas/photos/pic1.html

Comment by Dave 'Bat" Chapman on January 11, 2011 at 12:02pm
Hello Melvin,

Please provide me with historical references, official records, archival information, publication links, eye witness statements concerning and substantiating your written claim on this website to help all us get confirming evidence of this claim you have submitted, Thank you for your understanding,

Your friend,

Dave 'Bat' Masterson- chapman
Comment by Dirtrider on January 11, 2011 at 12:18pm
Comment by Melvin Graf on January 11, 2011 at 12:23pm

I provided you a link with primary information.  You can also contact Eric James who is a member of True West.  It is not up to me to prove a negative, it is up to you to prove a positive.  I see no proof from you other than you placed a "label" on this image.  You state yourself that:  "I admit that all the labels are not "accurate" because I find "as is" on the internet."  Some proof Reverend.

I await positive proof from you that this image is James L. Courtney.  I also await proof from you that the famous outlaw Jesse Woodson James did not die in 1882 and lived on as James L. Courtney. 

Comment by Dave 'Bat" Chapman on January 11, 2011 at 12:39pm
Hello Melvin,

Dirtrider has just provided a link to a website with pictorial proof and an ancesetral family tree that substantiates the identity of this picture being , in my belief that of Travis Barron and not Jesse Woodson James. Thank you Dirtrider!! www.ericjames.org/jessejamesinTexas/photos/pic1.html

Your friend,

Dave 'Bat' Chapman
Comment by Melvin Graf on January 11, 2011 at 12:46pm
It is exactly the same link I provided to you in my first post if you had bothered to look at it.  At least you now know that you have "labeled" this image incorrectly.
Comment by Dave 'Bat" Chapman on January 11, 2011 at 12:57pm
Hello Melvin,

Your comment of "some proof Reverend" is accusing me of providing and giving labels to these pictures "as fact"...not true. My disclaimer on my web home page states very clearly that the labels are "my opinion of belief" or "As is or Found". Please read it carefully.

If we are going to conduct a discussion let us realize that others are watching our discussion and they are learning too. The work to provide evidence is beneficial to other on lookers as well as yourself...when we provide web links or books or other evidence we are educating others and providing many hours of enjoyment. In my belief this is an "Historical society", to me that means we are leaving information that will remain as education for others now and into the future.

Are we still friends Melvin? I wouldn't like to think we are not friends...that would be just terrible....are we friends Melvin?

Dave 'Bat' Chapman
Comment by Stan H on January 11, 2011 at 1:03pm

I also must take issue on the accuracy of some of the labels on Mr Chapman's pictures. I posted comments on a couple of them, with no response.

 

I would think if it is shown the label on a picture is incorrect, the poster would be happy to edited it and post the correct information.

 

Just this old cowboy's opinion, of course.

Comment by Melvin Graf on January 11, 2011 at 1:07pm
Come on Rev, I did read your free "homepage" on TW very carefully.  Nice that it didn't cost you a dime and you were able to post 534 images on this site.  Must be a record.  You sure do have plenty of disclaimers and I'll agree that you need every one of them.  But I disagree with you that posting misidentified images on a site like this provides an "education" for anyone.  
Comment by Melvin Graf on January 11, 2011 at 1:08pm
Stan, you would think! :)

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