Hey Patrick...we must live fairly close to eachother!

[Chuck Jones]

...I too have traced both Bat's and Doc's path through and around Denver. As long as I've lived here, I hadn't previously known of how often they both were "residing, however temporarily" in Denver.

Yep.....we are very fortunate to live within a day's drive of most of the West's Historic locations!

[patrick mark pazen]

Hi Chuck, I live down in Roxbuough which is a Littleton address, retired this year took an early out and now devote lots of time to my favorite hobby western history, matter of fact where going down to Tombstone for Hellderado days next month, been there before but not for the cellabration, would like to get a little more info from you on Docs patht thru Denver if you dont mind, following Bats path was a lot of fun and Docs would be great as well. correspond with a gent in Bristol England, his hero is Bat and his vacation every year is coming to the U.S. and following the western history. Mentioned to him about Bats involment in our fair city and he wants to put on his list of future visits, so our history seems to bring people togeather from all over the world and thats great, pmpazen

[Chuck Jones]

Hey Patrick, the following link will provide some information as to Doc in Colorado, particularly his time in Denver, May - July of 1882. http://www.docholliday.info/timelineb.htm In addition the book, Doc Holliday...A Family Portrait, by Karen Holliday Tanner a relative of Doc's gives a good description of his arrest, interviews and release from jail in Denver.

He was arrested after leaving a "saloon" on the corner of Larimer and 17th streets, while unarmed and sanding under a street light there. It seems that his arrestor was a phony sheriff, from out of state, who was actually a member of the "Cowboy ring in Tombstone." They almost got him back to Tombstone but for the good will of then Governor Pitkin who refused to extradite him back to AZ.

His so-so friend Bat Masterson was heavily involved with getting him released, due to Bat's relationships in Colorado, including the Governor. As you probably also know, Bat was a lawman down in Trinidad, Colorado at the time that Doc was in Colorado.

His last meeting with Wyatt and Josie took place in Denver's Windsor Hotel (still in operation, but now a low grade hotel at best):

"1886—*According to some sources, he sees Wyatt Earp for the last time at the Windsor Hotel in Denver. Josie Earp reports that the emaciated Doc has a continuous cough and is so weak that he stands unsteadily."

Hope this helps your friend from the UK and you in following Doc through Colorado and especially Denver.

Chuck

[patrick mark pazen]

thanks for the info Chuck will have to make a trip down town and check out the windsor hotel sorry to hear its in decay but the historical value is still there. if you want to go with let me know and some exploring would be fun, just got a call from Fairplay that my hat is ready so thats a trip up there next week, hope the weather will be good and the aspen should be in full glory, pmpazen

[patrick mark pazen]

Hi Chuck, just wondering if you know the address of the Windsor hotel, probably take a visit down town soon to follow Wyatt and Docs path so it would help if you remember it,, thanks pmpazen

[Chuck Jones]

Hello Patrick...the Windsor Hotel was on the corner of 18th and Larimer, just a block away from where Doc was taken into custody by the phony sheriff. I believe that it is a parking lot now!!! I will attach a photo dated in the range of 1890 - 1910. Hope this helps!

[patrick mark pazen]

Hi Chuck sorry to take so long thanking you for the picture of the Windsor, been out of town off and on and time to get caught up on the emails, went to Pueblo last weekend for the chilli festival the old building down town looked quite intresting and will probably go back for some exploring in the future, lots of history in this old town, also went down to Trinidad and this is where Bat Masterson was sheriff for about a year, lots went on in this town and enjoyed checking out the 1880s buildings, the First National Bank hasnt changed much in the last 100 years, original through out and this was great,,,, thanks again for the info,,,,, pmpazen

[Chuck Jones]

Pueblo and Trinidad are both chock full of history my Friend. Trinidad hosted such notables as Pat Garrett (he was married there in the Plaza Hotel, and his life size photo still hangs there), Biily Bonney spent some time there as well, and had a "girl friend" there. Of course, Wyatt, Doc and Bat were there for a time!

I've read that Doc spent more than a week at the Faro Tables in Pueblo before coming up to Denver. In fact he was watched and followed to Denver by the "phony lawman" who arrested him in Denver. There are some great photo opportunities in both towns.

Glad you enjoyed your trip south!

Chuck

[patrick mark pazen]

Thanks Chuck, after this info yes indeed I,ll being making a trip down to old Pueblo again, have to read about what went on before going and have some idea on what happened ,, lots of interesting people obvously passed thru town, i do like the story about the the two army's ready to go battle over the Royal Gorge right of way, comical in some ways but all part of our colorfull history, the photo opportunities will make this trip fun, as photography is one of my hobbies,,, thanks again pmpazen

[Chuck Jones]

Hello Patrick...thyought this might interest you too! If you haven't been to the "Buckhorn Exchange Restaurant" at 1000 Osage St. in the oldest section of Denver, you should definitely make a point of visiting for lunch or dinner and a lot of old west Denver history! The Buckhorn has been open and operating since 1893 and has had the likes of Buffalo Bill (regular patron for years), Wild Bill, Teddy Roosevelt, and many-many others! Lot's of old west artifacts on display and excellent food...although a bit pricey!

I'm attaching some photos for your viewing. Here is a link to the history page of this grand old establishment: http://buckhornexchange.com/history.php

Enjoy.....Chuck

[patrick mark pazen]

Good morning Chuck, the Buckhorn has to be my favorite restaurant in Denver town, been going there for about forty years, old man Zietz still had it then. would go for dinner and the menu had three items, pork chops. large steak and small steak. the electricity would go off and and the old man would ask me to fix it for him, i would go to the kitchen and re-fuse the junction box and lights again, he never really thanked me. but would growl and shuffle away, all part of the this great restaurants flavor, i asked him one time what where the most valuable items in the building and he pointed to a small table with three chairs so of all the memorabilia in there this was his favorite, thanks for the info thou Chuck and if you would like to meet for lunck some time it would be great. pmpazen

[Chuck Jones]

Good morning Patrick.....glad to hear that you're a regular at the Buckhorn and that you got to meet the old man. Of course that had to be Henry Jr., as his Father, Henry "Shorty Scout" died in 1949? Did he ever say why that table and 3 chairs were his favorite? I wonder who sat, ate, and drank at that table?

I would like very much to have lunch with you there. Perhaps we could meet at the Mineral Street Station of the Light Rail some morning, and take that pleasant ride down to and back from the site of some awesome "old west history?"

Chuck

[patrick mark pazen]

Hey Chuck, looks like the old Buckhorn started some discussion with the group and rightfully so, what a great place for any western history fan. never did know why the little table and chairs where held in such a high regard by Zietz. I feel that some one or who knows must have dinned there, cant think of any other reason, to compare the table to Custers sword from his last battle is a little mind boggling to me, but who knows, i do remember asking him if he had ever been robbed as the location then was a little on the rough side, he responded that quote he had Billy the Kids pistol behind the bar and knew how to use it, now that was what he told me so that to could be true or or or, any way lunch would be great, the 9th of October is out as i have an appointment all morning. leaving for Hellderado days on the 14th but theres lots of time to go and relish in all that history,,,,pmpazen