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Steve, since you say you're never insulted by what people call you, how about if I call you "Archie Bunker"? Your statements on ethnic and racial name calling sound like they could have come straight from his mouth. You're as oblivious as he was to the derogatory nature of these epithets, and to the fact that American culture was once deeply steeped in racism and ethnic bigotry. Pershing using negative stereotypes about Blacks even when trying to praise a group of them is illustrative of this.

 I find it amazing that you discuss what Black people have been called without once mentioning "Negro." You seem to think that Negro and ni--er are the same word. (Of course Negro means black in Spanish, and was often pronounced "negra" by Southerners and Westerners, and that' sounds very close to ni--er. I and many Blacks, too, deplore the widespread use of the "N" word by Black --- and White-- youth today,also.)  

The fact that nice people like your "sweet little old grandmother," or my father, for that matter, used such terms did not make it right or "polite." Of course, my father didn't care for it so much when he was called a "mockie."

 Sometimes things change for the better, after we've learned from bitter experience. "Amos and Andy" was very funny, but certainly demeaning. There are enough other things to laugh at without that type of humor. So don't hold on to past ways that were not so wonderful for many. Get with change when it's for the better.

s.mc.....just because its been going on for 500 years, does time spent make it right...i dont understand how someone like you who claims to be 'native' american can be so insensitive...and 'chief' is NOT a compliment...i have always failed to see the humor in white military people getting off calling we native 'PEOPLE' by that name... you really need to pull your head out of your fourth part of contact, marine, and get with the program...callin' folks names just aint nice....i know for a fact white folk take askance at it too...

s mc....read 'remembrance of things past' here in blogs if ya want the REAL picture...im NOT saying its the opinion of other native folk here..just mine...

I am done with this thread. It is obvious your hatred and prejudice is beyond discussing.

 

I apologize to the rest of the members of this fine site for helping to drag this thread off of it's original topic. I just could not allow the hatefull racist (yes, racist) rhetoric being spouted to go unchallenged. But, I am done now. I can see it if a futile discussion. So,,,,

 

 

'nuff said.

 

 

 

Young men and women...  This site is NOT a political blog...  This is a place to discuss Old West Firearms and their history in building our country as we know it...  Can we please refrain?

I guess that leaves me out ... since I ain't so young anymore.

At what point did this blog slip into a name calling contest??????  I went into this discussion to read what others had found out about the truth or fallacy of wyatt having a "Buntline" colt. I did not expect to find folks using old, tired racial words that did not have a darned thing to do with the object of the thread. I thought we were adults here, not nitpicking kids with about as much sense as god gave a dead armadillo! Please stick to the subject at hand and stop straying into the "Twilight Zone" of nonsense. Nuff Said!

Here's some more info to chew on...

http://www.usfirearms.com/pdf/guns_ammo_dec_97.pdf

99.999% of what's in this article--plus a lot more, including why Buntline chose the particular 5 men he chose to recieve the guns--is in the 100+ page appendix to Lee Silva's WYATT EARP, THE COWTOWN YEARS, the 1st of the 3-vol bio of Earp Lee intends to produce.  While Earp, Masterson, Tilghman, & Basset eventually became lawmen, Short never did.  He was a professional gambler.  He's also the guy who blew out Long-hair Jim Courtright's lamp in Ft. Worth in the '80s, & he used a DA Colt M1877 in .38 Colt to do it.

One source has characterized Ned Buntline as: Cheap, boisterous, an incorrigible liar, and a general bad egg. His writing was all trash and he himself a rascal of the first order. Perhaps slightly overstated, this view does contain elements of truth.

http://www.kancoll.org/khq/1976/76_2_shillingberg.htm

Wyatt Earp and the "Buntline Special" Myth by William B. Shillingberg

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