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Image Scammer Exposed on YouTube
I did not produce this video but I'd sure like to shake the hand of the guy/gal who did. It focuses on a person who produced a degree of chaos here a while back and was subsequently banned. I see that he's recently reduced the James Family Genealogy Forum on genealogy.com to an advertisement for his misidentified collection just as he tried to do on here. Having studied many other areas of history, I remain amazed at the number of absolute nutbags, besides the normal honest folks, that Jesse James seems to attract. Anyway, it's good to see this particular scammer exposed on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHYBkPyT080
Mel
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Permalink Reply by C. F. 'Charley' Eckhardt on -
There are a lot of fake 'western memorabilia' photos coming out of, of all places, Tasmania. Most recently some guy from Tasmania posted a couple of photos on TexasEscapes.com, an on-line magazine I write for, which he claimed were the wedding photos of Doc Holliday & Big Nose Kate. They were 'authenticated' by a 'professor of comparative anatomy' at University of Adelaide.
Jane Candia Coleman, who wrote the novel DOC HOLLIDAY'S WOMAN, is a friend of mine. I knew she had contact with the Haroney family. Kate's real name was Mary Katherine Horoney, though the family's changed the spelling of the name. She took a look at the pictures & had a good laugh. Jane owns the copyright on the only 3 authenticated photos of Kate. One was taken when she was 16 or 17, one when she was in her late 50s, & one is a snapshot taken of her at a family gathering when she was in her 70s.
I contacted my editor at TE & he pulled the photos. Look for them to show up on E-Bay, though. That's how the Tasmanian scammers work. They get their scam on some popular site on the net. After they've been up a while they put 'em on E-Bay or another net auction site as 'authentic.'
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Permalink Reply by Irvin Blankenship on -
Charley,
These scammers are everywhere. I didn't realize they were coming out of Tasmania too. I glad to see them publicly exposed. This guy who's the subject of the video is one of the worst I've seen.
Thank you,
Irvin Blankenship
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Permalink Reply by Fran Bolton on
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I did not understand the reply layout here at first, but I think I have now. The replies to the main discussion start at the left, under the Discussion. Each reply is indented to indicate which reply was replied to. Correct?
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Permalink Reply by Carolyn A.S. Holmes on -
Looks like a flow chart. I'm going to email you something. Tell me what you think?
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Permalink Reply by Carolyn A.S. Holmes on
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The recent photo on ebay is the one that floors me the most. Zerelda Samuels is indeed in this photo but I don't for a minute buy that the photo was taken in Buttermilk, Texas and has a Jesse James imposter in Texas sitting on the ground in front of the group. The following are photos of Frank James in an automobile, a group shot of the family, 2 photo's of Frank James homes in Fletcher, Okla. Not the one with Frank at the edge of the house, Robert on the porch and Annie sitting there petting a dog that looks like the one seen in the background of the ebay photo. I feel that the photo is not that of JLC the Texas Jesse James Imposter sitting in the dark suit on the ground or any other members of his family that have been claimed to appear in the photo.
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Permalink Reply by Fran Bolton on
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Carolyn, I believe it is only a matter of time until the web of those researching the Ebay group photo featuring Zerelda in the center will document, not guess, the names of those in the photo with her.
It has already been dated by those in the web as most likely 1888-1889, when Caroline Quantrill visited that area of MO and lived with various Quantrill men's families during that year. This alone shows Jesse James cannot be in the photo. Frank lived in Dallas at that time, and was balding, so it is possible he was not in the photo, even though his wife may be. A local newspaper article of the time said she was a guest of the Ralston family at that time. No mention of Frank being a guest.
Dating the photo at 1888-1889 does not make it possible for the man in the mustache and dark suit sitting on the ground to be James L Courtney, claimed by his gr-granddaughter to be JJ, as the photo used to compare the two men is NOT James L Courtney, but his brother-in-law Travis Barron. Scrambled Eggs!
Fran
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Permalink Reply by Carolyn A.S. Holmes on
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I'll supply the ham.
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Permalink Reply by Fran Bolton on
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"I'll supply the ham" you say!
You can store it here, next to Quantrill's reconstructed, wax head:
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/10054
Fran
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Permalink Reply by Carolyn A.S. Holmes on
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I have a head that looks just like that. Looks like history is going to be changed over the latest ebay photo. Perhaps next Mt. Rushmore will need to come down and be replace by....heck you know. The famous 4. I bet the James Farm gets moved to Texas.
This could be intersting.
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Permalink Reply by Carolyn A.S. Holmes on
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I'd hate to be in those shoes and face the music when that photo is proved with the true family members and no mention of the Texas Imposter being in it. Heck, the man in the brown suit might be old Dalton.
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Permalink Reply by Fran Bolton on
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The music will be treated more like water off a duck's back.
But, the dissappointment will be huge, if one gets over excited in the beginning at the possibilities of the photo, and publishes it's imagined merits that are guesses before any proof is found of the people posing. It is a copy photo by the way, other's exist, so it is just a matter of throwing the net far and wide enough to snag one that IDs the complete group.
Fran
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