Image Scammer Exposed on YouTube

[Melvin Graf]

I did not produce this video but I'd sure like to shake the hand of the guy/gal who did.  It focuses on a person who produced a degree of chaos here a while back and was subsequently banned.  I see that he's recently reduced the James Family Genealogy Forum on genealogy.com to an advertisement for his misidentified collection just as he tried to do on here.  Having studied many other areas of history, I remain amazed at the number of absolute nutbags, besides the normal honest folks, that Jesse James seems to attract.  Anyway, it's good to see this particular scammer exposed on YouTube. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHYBkPyT080

 

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[Carolyn A.S. Holmes]

Here more for ya Gay.

The bombing at the James home never happened in the JLC Story. So how did Dinah Haun lose her arm according to the JLC story and how did Dinah become Zerelda since the ebay photo came about?

 

Reuben Samuel(s) Passed Away
"The Kansas City Journal" (Missouri) Tuesday, March 3, 1908

WAS JAMES BOYS' STEPFATHER

St. Joseph, Mo., March 2 --- Dr. Reuben SAMUELS, the step-father of Jesse
and Frank JAMES, famous Missouri outlaws, died at the state hospital for the
insane No. 2 near this city this afternoon. Dr. SAMUELS had been an inmate
of the asylum for about seven years, and was about 82 years old. He had
been confined to his bed for eight months, as a result of paralysis.

Dr. SAMUELS was married to Mrs. JAMES, the mother of Frank and Jesse JAMES,
about the close of the civil war. Two sons were born to them.

One, Arthur SAMUELS, was killed in 1875 by the explosion of a bomb thrown
into the SAMUELS home, near Kearney, Mo., supposedly by Pinkerton
detectives. Mrs. SAMUELS attempted to roll the missile into the fireplace.
Before she accomplished her aim, it exploded and tore her arm off. Arthur,
aged about 7 years, was struck by flying fragments, and lived but a few
hours. Another son, John SAMUELS, resides at Excelsior Springs, Mo.

Dr. SAMUELS went by the name of "Bumble," as he had a mumbling way of
talking. For several years prior to the breaking out of the war he
practiced medicine at Greenville, Mo., an old town south of Lawson, Mo.

His son, John SAMUELS, was shot in the breast at a dance at Greenville
several years ago. The host, an aged man named James RHODES, feared that
the dancers were attacking him in a drunken mood and fired at his supposed
assailants and hit John SAMUELS.

Dr. SAMUELS was noted for the mildness of his disposition and is said to
have been a good man in every particular. He was at home the night his son
was killed and his wife injured, but escaped unhurt.

The body will be taken to either Kearney or Excelsior Springs today. Jesse
JAMES and Arthur SAMUELS are both buried at Kearney. Jesse's body having
been removed from the grave in the yard at the old SAMUELS home near Kearney
several years ago, during a terrific rainstorm.

[Gay Mathis]

There is so much documentation the bombing happened..Ted Yeatman's book: "Frank and Jesse James: The Story Behind the Legend" is a good place for anyone to start reading, for example, plus other documentation..

BTW, Dr. James V. Scruggs, Kearney physician, who helped attend to Zerelda & Archie, etc.. after the bombing and his horse was stolen during that time was related to me..

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James Farm Museum website:

Piece of the bomb thrown into the cabin by the Pinkerton Detective Agency in 1875

http://www.jessejames.org/tour1d.html

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An enlargement of the above picture. The gentleman appears to be holding a piece of shrapnel from the 1875 bombing. Photo courtesy of Armand--(Scroll down webpage to view)

http://www.jessejames.org/FOTJF/pics2.html

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Sedalia Daily Democrat--1/28/1875--Miscellaneous--James Boys Tragedy--pg 1--(Excerpt Only)

The shell was seven and a half inches in diameter, and partly of wrought and partly of cast iron

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The Liberty Tribune--2/12/1875--The Clay County Tragedy--pg 1--The Hand-Grenade--Excerpts

This instrument was composed of cast and wrought or malicable iron, strongly secured together and covered with a wrapping saturated with turpentine or oil.

The part composed of cast iron broke into fragments and flew out with great force

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Jesse James, My Father--Jesse James, Jr-- Chapter 8-- Outlawed and Hunted----pg 85

My grandmother has yet at her home the half of this iron bomb-shell, and visitors to her home may see it there. It is wrought iron, with a shell about one-fourth of an inch thick, and it is eight inches in diameter. The edges are torn and jagged by the force of the explosion that it burst asunder.

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Frank & Jesse James--Story Behind The Legend--Ted P. Yeatman--pg 141--Excerpts:

Feb 11--Liberty Advance contained an intriguing letter, cryptically signed "WJC"

The hand grenade seemed to me to be what I call a home-made concern--not made in any regular armory--of very rough and ordinary workmanship, one half being wrought, the other half cast, and connected by an iron band, with a fuse to ignite it..

Another excerpt:

The fuse being set on fire would burn in causing heat to generate, the two pieces to expand and separate, let out the Grecian fire all over the house

Another excerpt:

The iron band around the instrument was too tight to give, thereby causing the explosion which was not what the attacking party was expecting.

　

　

[Chuck Rabas]

Ms. Holmes,

I'm afraid Ms. Duke and her handful of faithful followers will reject that, just as they have rejected or ignored every other bit of documentation that exposes the flaws in her ever-changing story.  They prefer to blunder blindly ahead, relying on disproven sources, speculation and wishful thinking.

[Michael]

Documentation? That is why there is merely a handful of followers. They are not faithful. He or she will shove the other under the bus at the first chance to advance his or her own personal agenda.

[Chuck Rabas]

That's already begun.  Another woman who makes an even more laughable claim to be Jesse's g-granddaughter has apparently stopped talking to them, and another that still believes J. Frank Dalton was Jesse has been arguing with Ms. Duke and the handful (about a half dozen) that actively support her.  No credible historians bother to post on their forums any longer, and visit them only for the laughs they provide.

[Carolyn A.S. Holmes]

That's where her story comes across as a bologna sauce as Judge Ross would say. To say that Jesse James takes an alias and lives as Texas is one thing, but to steal his family and claim them as hers is an entirely different story. No records of JLC robbing backs except for that La. Stage robbery claimed in the story which can't be backed up and most likely never happened. Mary Ellen was the daugther of T.H. Barron. She was not Mrs. Jesse James. So if Zerelda in the ebay photo is the real mother of Jesse James than Dinah Haun Courtney is not Zerelda James. So does this mean Dinah Courtney get swept under the rug. As far as I know she has no documentation that links those named in the ebay photo (except for Zerelda and Samuel) to the James family. She can't prove that those she named are indeed who she says they are. I read an article where Zerelda spent a month in the hospital after the bombing. That a neighbor walked in just as Reuben was preparing to nip the skin that held the arm on.

Perhaps the Jesse James Curse is working it's charm since those she once used to support her claim are now turning against her. I have heard some wild Jesse James story in my life but this one if far from reality.

[Fran Bolton]

According to James L Courtney's diary, he was nowhere near that robbery on that date. Now, if the diary entries for that time period were presented as evidence, it would be claimed to have been written to be his alibi.

So far, there is not one piece of evidence, including DNA, that has been considered even remotely possible. Yet, what is not even the least bit remotely possible is clung to as evidence.

Someone should write a book, "Jesse James? Not Possible!"

Any Huckleberries out there???

Fran

PS, the woman claimed to be Mary Ellen Barron Courtney, the real wife of JJ, seated behind the man claimed to be JJ (the man in the dark suit seated on the ground) in the group photo is old enough to be his mother!

http://quantrillsguerrillas.com/xoops/modules/news/

 

[Carolyn A.S. Holmes]

Is there a Texas version of this story according to the JLC mystery

James Home 'Bombing' Stirred Public
Kansas City Times  Jan. 31, 1975

By Fred L. Lee
NEIGHBORS AWAKENED
    A witness that morning, E. Price Hall, was interviewed by Homer Croy, Maryville, Mo., writer, when Croy was researching his book, "Jesse James Was My Neighbor."
    Hall was 87 years old at the time of the interview.  For six years he had been a deputy sheriff.  He was living in Liberty when Croy talked to him.
    "At the time of the explosion (Hall) was a boy," Croy writes.  "His father's farm and the James farm adjoined.  The Halls were awakened by the commotion and screaming.  Young Price hurried to the James house to find out what it was all about."
    When he got there "the stench was still in the house."  Mrs. Samuel's hand was still clinging to her arm by a shred of skin.  Samuel was preparing to cut the pieces of skin.   Little Archie was lying in a cot nearby groaning.
    "Shortly after dawn I went out to explore the yard," Hall told Croy.  "There had been a light snow and there were the tracks of the men.  I followed the tracks a short way and found where the men had sat down on a log.  I found the pistol one of them had lost.  On the handle were stamped the letters, 'P.G.G.'  This stood for Pinkerton's Government Guard.  Allen Pinkerton had organized the United States Secret Service and he had official government backing.
    "We followed the tracks to the railroad and saw where the men had stood waiting for the train.  They had enough authority to stop the train.  Then they got on."

How soon after this incident was the ebay photo taken?

[C. F. 'Charley' Eckhardt]

For the record, the Pinks have finally admitted it was an explosive device, not a smoke bomb. 

[Chuck Rabas]

While researching for his book, Frank and Jesse James: The Story Behind the Legend, Ted Yeatman discovered copies of letters in the Pinkerton files that showed the raid was indeed to destroy the house.

[Gay Mathis]

Chuck, I ran across this 1992 newpaper article regarding Ted Yeatman and his discovery..Just thought I would post it to go with your info..

 

US Tied To Bombing of Jesse James' Home--Herald-Journal - Sep 14, 1992--pg 3

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=VD0fAAAAIBAJ&sjid=C88EAAAA...

 

[Carolyn A.S. Holmes]

Did the Pinkerton's lay off the James boys after the 1875 bombing. I always wondered why it wasn't Pinkerton keeping an eye on JJ in St. Joe especially when Crittenden knew where they were according to Bob Ford who was working with Crittenden at the time. Seems rather odd on Pinkerton's part.